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I recently applied one coat of Kilz on old floorboards to block a MILD odor. There was minimal odor BEFORE applying Kilz. However, after applying the primer, there is now an amplified musty old wood smell. It is not the smell of the Kilz itself. It smells like old wet musty wood but amplified x100. Do I just need to let it “cure” longer? It’s been less than 24 hours.

This is your monthly highlights post, curated and refreshed to keep important stuff at the top. If you are new to OTF or our subreddit, this is the best place to start. As always, you can use this thread to share and discuss upcoming intel for the month and other random topics.
Key Dates for The Month

• June 7 (Wednesday): Tread Trail; specialty workout, for Global Running Day (this is new, we do not have info as of post time)
• June 9 (Friday): 500 meter row; benchmark
• June 14 (Wednesday): Capture the Flag; specialty workout, Flag Day in the US
• June 26 (Monday): Catch Me If You Can; signature workout
• June 1 (Thursday) through June 30 (Friday): Push 30; a new challenge, see this post for some intel.

Please see our wiki, here for more descriptions regarding specialty and signature workouts, along with an incredibly helpful glossary of terms!
Other info to know

• Medicine Ball on 6/1 (Thursday), 6/14 (Wednesday, Capture the Flag), and 6/19 (Monday)
• Minibands on 6/2 (Friday), and 6/17 (Saturday)
• Incline Bench on 6/8 (Thursday), and 6/24 (Saturday)
• BOSU on 6/12 (Monday), and 6/28 (Wednesday)
• Run/Rows on 6/4 (Sunday), 6/6 (Tuesday), 6/9 (Friday, 500m benchmark), 6/21 (Wednesday), 6/23 (Friday), and 6/26 (Monday, Catch Me If You Can)
• Switch templates on 6/1, 6/9, 6/14, 6/19
• Repeat templates are as follows: 6/17 = 6/2, 6/19 = 6/1, 6/20 = 6/3, 6/21 = 6/4, 6/22 = 6/5, 6/23 = 6/6, 6/24 = 6/8, 6/25 = 6/10, 6/27 = 6/11, 6/28 = 6/12, 6/29 = 6/13, 6/30 = 6/15
• There is one 3G only format template, this will be on Sunday, 6/18. This means that even if your class is listed as a 2G in the app, the format will follow a 3G template.

Tornadoes are still around, scheduled at each studio's discretion. Please see the Glossary section of our wiki for a description of Tornadoes.
90 Minute classes are also scheduled at each studio's discretion. These templates may just have an additional block to the template for the day, or they may be entirely different, as the studios can pick from multiple 90 minute templates during the month.
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Charlotte Tilbury color corrector in 1 fair. Well-loved. $4.50
Charlotte Tilbury brightening youth glow. Used a few times. $15
Colourpop pretty fresh concealer in fair 10. Lightly used. $3
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Grande Lash leave in lash conditioner and lash enhancing serum. Used 2x each. $12 for duo
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Too Faced milk chocolate bronzer. Usage shown. $10
Tula cooling and brightening eye balm. Used 2x. $12
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Skincare Dermalogica daily microfoliant (2.6 oz). Used 5x. $18
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Farsali unicorn essence. Used 2x. $16
Goodlight moon glow milky toning lotion. Used 1x. $10
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Josie Maran get even skin milk mini. Expires 2/2024 Used 1x. $4.50
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Krave Beauty great barrier relief body lotion. Used 3x. $12
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Saint Jane luxury sun ritual pore smoothing spf 30 mini. Used 1x. $3.50
Saturday Skin wide awake brightening eye cream. Used maybe 10x. $8
Sunday Riley CEO afterglow brightening vitamin C cream. BNIB, includes spatula. $45
Summer Fridays shade drops spf 30 mini. This is teeny! Expires 1/2024. Free with purchase
Tata Harper water lock moisturizer mini. Unused. $4.50
Tula protect + glow daily sunscreen gel. Expires 1/2024. Used 3x. $18
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We are considering using Kilz 3 premium primer to apply on walls and ceiling in a medium-sized bedroom in an older home with plaster walls that are already painted. There is a very mild smell existing in the room, possibly coming from the walls. Not sure.
We just want to block and seal the walls without creating any additional hassle or odor. We lean toward Kilz 3 premium because it is water-based, and we want low VOC if possible. Since it is an upstair bedroom, we definitely do not want to use anything high VOC or that is oil-based.I don't know whether Kilz 3 is low VOC.
Any advice on using Kilz 3 premium? Would we need to use masks to paint to avoid inhalation? Would a dust mask be sufficient? We can open the windows and use a fan for cross ventilation. How long does it take for the odor from the Kilz 3 primer to dissipate? Thanks!

I’ve been grinding away on a lot of writing on credit recruiting, advice for interns, and other career resources for junior peers in finance and have roughly 17,000 words written so far. This will steadily be coming out over the next few months – and we’re kicking it off today starting with advice for interns. My disclaimer for everything I’ll be writing is as follows – one person’s career advice may not be the perfect fit for you and you should combine the opinion of 5-10 people you respect and then determine what is YOUR best path. But alas, I’ve walked the path of being a bulge bracket intern, and have spent a lot of time thinking through the insight I can provide the interns and junior people that follow the account – and here’s what I’ve got.
First – advice for people with interns: Be nice and understanding to your intern.
To be honest, whether we like to admit it or not, this is how most of us came into the industry: A lot of us came into the industry thinking we knew more than we actually did because we read about it in a textbook, got good grades, and saw xyz finance meme. But the reality is a lot of us were vastly unprepared to be a value-added resource during the early stages of our career. One MD said to me once as a college senior “They don’t expect you to know anything. They’re hiring for someone who can learn as they go.” I didn’t realize this as a college senior, but after six months of working this became very obvious to me. Companies are hiring interns for their potential. Their potential comes from 1) having a good work ethic and 2) having a good attitude. As an intern, if you work hard and be pleasant to work with, then you’re going to win 9 times out of 10.
It's hard to remember, but there was a time where none of us had any clue what we were doing. Arguably, this continues on in your career and the humblest investors truly believe this. So look here’s my advice – sure interns be saying the darndest things sometimes – but let’s try to cut them slack, treat them fairly, and remember we were once in their same shoes?
Sure, if a Gen Z intern is out there being a jerk and snobbish, then maybe this isn’t valid, but if they’re hardworking, showing a lot of potential, and are super coachable then it is your job to help them develop into a potential asset at your firm.
Also – this is a relatively more “stressful” year for interns. College kids are always a lot more panicked about the job market than people who already have experience under their belt to begin with - but this economy isn’t lessening their worries. A lot of college kids are seeing the class of 2023 have offers pulled and enter a tougher job market. Now they’re starting to get spooked a bit and may feel a little out of control. Try your best to encourage and develop them – these guys are probably feeling a little like how the 2008-2009 grads felt, to a degree.
Okay – so here’s my 20 point list of recommendations for interns.
First - last year I started a debate over whether banking interns should take vacations in the middle of their internship….and people actually tried countering it. LMAO! I’m going to try this bit again sometime soon to get the people going and let’s still see people still think that while we’re on the precipice of a recession.
1) Be careful with social media. DO NOT MAKE TIKTOKS. Emphasizing this in all caps. There’s a reason all the Finmemes and FinTwit burners are anonymous and not dancing around on the internet. Most TikToks are very cringeworthy and seem to always find their way to HR once they go viral. People will 100% get fired over what they post to TikTok or Snapchat. Your TikToks are very likely to be spread to large audiences on Instagram or Twitter – which is totally fair game (you posted it, you gotta own what you post). With that said, if you ask nicely I’ll take a TikTok down, but other accounts openly will not. In general, don’t take your phone out and record or take photos of stuff, especially given all the sensitive materials we work with. Don’t post sensitive information from your computer on your IG story captioned “grinding hard” “working on the weekend like usual” or some shit.
2) Don’t take a week long vacation during a ten-week internship. Last year, I made this obvious remark on twitter, got a bunch of ppl in agreement, but also riled up a tonnnn of people on twitter (didn’t seem like the typical finance folk though) but it’s true. I want everyone reading this to succeed – which is why I’m telling this hard truth. Bosses in banking will frown upon you missing 10% of your learning experience to go vacation. You can always vacation before or after your internship (this is what I did lol). Remember as an intern, you are trying out for a sports team – you haven’t made the team yet, but you’re getting the chance to make the big leagues. Would you leave the team in the middle of preseason before the roster is finalized? Of course not. It’s that simple.
3) Dress the part without overdressing: You don’t want to wear a significantly oversized suit but you also shouldn’t be wearing Gucci loafers as an intern. Ideally you want to dress in a pretty standard way that isn’t drawing attention to yourself as someone who seems out of place. I’d lose any dress shirts with shirt pockets and I’m not a fan of oxford collars (this one may be too harsh but just my opinion). I just don’t think oxford collars go well with a tie and/or suit. Make sure your dress shirts aren’t wrinkled af. Obviously no Gordon Gekko dress shirts. In terms of shoes, Gucci loafers are frowned upon as an intern/first year because you haven’t really gone through the ringer, may be perceived as entitled, and hence don’t deserve this status symbol. This is the case for nice watches too. This is the perception from senior people, so ya, just wait until after a sick bonus and snag the more-status like attire after your first 1-3 years.
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4) You want to look professional, this may mean having a professional haircut: Look – so if I see a Gen Z analyst with that typical Gen Z haircut (I later learned it’s called a “broccoli cut”) I do not take them seriously. I figured this was kind of mean of me, so I went to Twitter to confirm whether other people think this. In fact, they overwhelmingly agree. Older generations think the broccoli cut looks stupid as hell.
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Again, it’s not about “what’s accepted” by your generation, it’s about what’s accepted (without being said obviously) within the workforce. Again, this is me speaking a hard truth. I’d like for HYH readers to be taken seriously – and I’m telling you a large amount of FinTwit just said this haircut below looks silly! Read the tea leaves.
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5) Don’t make the same mistake twice: Easier said than done, but the people evaluating you are keeping tabs on whether you’re smart/teachable. They’ve been trained by this philosophy and are judging you by the same standards. If you make the same mistake twice, then they may perceive that you may not have the ability to retain information, learn from experience, etc. Tough, but this is true and happens constantly. I got screamed at once where my VP said “he asked this same question before!!” to a couple of MDs. Tbh the MDs didn’t really care, but wasn’t a great feeling. Try to keep tabs on what you’ve already asked and have been shown.
6) Don’t #REF the model or some important file: When you’re working in an excel model or PowerPoint on your own you should make a copy from the original just in case you totally #REF! the model. Create a copy of “ImportantModel” and name it “ImportantModelYourInitials”. That way if you do something really dumb (who knows, you may change something they don’t like), at least there’s a backup. Tbh you may need to keep doing this throughout the entirety of your career and should engrain this in yourself as a best practice.
7) Steve Schwarzman (Founder of Blackstone) once said this isn’t school – you need a 100% score. This is the most important lesson here. In college, an A is a mid-90s grade. In a famous YouTube video where Schwarzman greets the first year analyst class at Blackstone, he notes how only a 100 is acceptable and As/Bs are not. He says this was his biggest challenge when he was just starting out. I’d strongly recommend watching this video later when you’re done reading through my list. He spits absolute fire here.
8) WFH will happen later in your career….your internship isn’t the time to be remote: In 2021/2022 I got some pushback on this point, but look now! Finance firms have brought pretty much everyone back to the office and a large chunk of front office professionals are in five days a week. Obviously there’s plenty of people at three days a week and four days a week, but I don’t know anyone in finance with “one or two days or fully remote”. I’ve previously noted that I thought a bunch of people were making a mistake by moving to fully remote too soon in their careers. I thought remote workers would be the first to go in a downturn and that has played out a ton over the past year. A remote worker’s connectivity is lower than the people a manager may see around a water cooler. Obviously, someone outside of finance, someone who’s an absolute stud, or an entrepreneur can leverage remote work ofc. I personally don’t think your 20’s are a great time to be too focused on being remote first, and the focus should be on building a reputation first. Obviously your first job (your internship) is meant as mainly a learning experience and a great opportunity to learn from smart people! Therefore as long as those smart people are in the office, you should be there too. If the firm has a 3-4 day policy then you get to follow that, but if you have a couple notable people in 5 days a week, then I would suck it up and get in the office 5 days a week. Also, this may be a great way to differentiate yourself and get more one-on-one time while the rest of the office is empty. Also – you’re trying out for a team! Make the team!
9) Proofread constantly: The more you re-read the higher the probability of catching errors! I’m terrible at proofreading. My ADHD ass is bouncing around constantly and I always miss stuff – but hopefully you guys can do better than me. Some tips: A) read from beginning to end, B) read backwards (from end to beginning), C) say out loud what you’re proofreading under your breath, D) read on a different format (for ex. If you were proofreading in word, try proofreading again in a PDF format), and E) print out the end product and proofread on paper. You don’t have to do all 5…(I don’t)..but you should find a formula to proofread and over-read effectively.
10) Over-communicate: It’s okay if you say or email “Will do”, “sounds good” , or “On it” constantly – I would confirm receipt to every email your direct co-workers send you so the sender knows you’re attentive and understood their instructions. Over-communicating via responding to emails is the move because it allows the person delegating work to you to understand that they don’t have to hover over you. When someone who isn’t your staffer talks to you too, it might be helpful to bring up in conversation – “I’m working with Kevin on xyz deal” or “I’ve been helping with xyz”- this is a good way to show people that you’re 1) staying busy and 2) contributing and people actually know what you’re up to.
11) Write everything down: When someone is speaking to you there is an expectation that you should be taking notes. Would be brutal if you finish an assignment but forget one piece because you forgot and didn’t have that part written down. Part of writing everything down too is so you can review and refresh on the lessons you’ve learned from your internship. I’d recommend reading through the learnings you have written down once a week. And obviously, post internship you can reflect on what you’ve learned and have off hand in case you need it in another setting. On that note, if there’s anything interesting you wrote down or worked on that you need to reference going forward – make sure you grab it and take it with you before your final day. Not the cleanest advice I’m giving rn – but it’s something a lot of people do and post-internship you may regret forgetting to bring home your firm’s powerpoint shortcut pdf, a primer on covenant lite loans, or a certain sell-side research report. Just speaking facts.
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12) Predict demands: This may be more for first-year analysts, but figuring out where you can add value and save people time is how you can justify your salary. For interns, it’s more about 1) learning experience, 2) being a good cultural fit, and 3) being teachable. But if you’re an intern tasked with “analyst like tasks” then I would try to take a step back and think of where you can add value. If someone senior asks you to do a task that seems recurring in nature, that’s a good place to take initiative going forward. Just confirm with them of course, that this is something recurring and something they want you to do, as you don’t want to accidentally mess something up or overstep. If you can get started on a task that you know someone is going to ask you to do anyways, go for it. Show that initiative.
13) Network with everyone, leave no stone unturned: I wouldn’t network with people immediately (you need to find your footing the first week or two) but it’s a mistake to not block off time to talk to every relevant person you can get in front of. Personalize your approaches and personalize your follow-ups, but recognize as an intern you’ll get a lot of flexibility to get in front of people that you may not be able to get in front of in a couple of years. Also make sure you chill with your fellow interns. Don’t be the person who doesn’t converse with the other interns. These are relationships that can become pretty important down the line as you will be able to pick each other’s brains as you navigate your early career. Also make sure you remember people’s names and don’t guess if you don’t know. If someone has a name that’s hard to spell – check their email first to make sure you spelled it right before firing it off. Last summer I got called the wrong name a few times by an intern on a different team. I didn’t bother correcting them, figuring it’s funnier to let them keep making the same mistake, and they looked like an idiot when they got it wrong in front of other people near the end of their internship
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14) Show this is where you want to work after graduation (even if that’s not true): Remember, you’re trying out for a sports team, make sure you show you want to join the big leagues. Look, you may even have to pretend you want to work there after graduation even if that’s a bold faced lie. If there’s murmurs you’re just using this internship as a stepping stone, you will be toast. You’ll have a year to shop for a better gig – just focus on securing the offer! Also – we’re probably about to enter a recession – don’t get cute! Get the job!
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15) Don’t get sloppy while drinking: This is very important. This isn’t college anymore. Bosses don’t care about how much you drink or how sick you are (I’ve made this mistake honestly). Keep your cool while drinking with colleagues and keep your cool if there’s an intern after party that follows a general work party. Again, this isn’t college, use your best judgement even when impaired.
16) Focus on what you can control, don’t focus on what you can’t control. This was really good advice I got from a MD. You have to accept some things are out of your control, which is tough for the personality types that know they can force a lot of their own future. If you put a lot of work in and are strategic, you can carve your own path forward, but there will still be external stuff out of your control that you can’t sweat over and will have to power through. Differentiating the two is crucial. But if there is something you can improve on that will impact your outcomes going forward, make sure you address that vs. incorrectly think it’s something you can’t control. Once you know what you can and cannot control you’ll be able to shape the path you want.
17) In hindsight you’ll realize you asked dumb questions/cared about the wrong stuff: You may realize over a few years that you panicked over stuff that didn’t matter. Try not to sweat it. It’s all part of the process. The stuff you read on WSO isn’t the bible. Just remember to be fair and helpful when an intern a few years from now has the same level of naivety and comes to you to learn.
18) Don’t beat yourself up over mistakes: I still vividly recall dumb mistakes I made as an intern/first year analyst. Hell, I still remember the dumb mistakes I made in middle school! It’s easier said than done, but try not to be too hard on yourself. It’s important to learn from mistakes, but make sure you learn to forgive yourself.
19) Don’t beat yourself up if you don’t get the offer: This doesn’t mean you’re a flawed human. You may not have been ready yet, the standards of the firm may be unrealistically high, or (more likely than not) they may not actually have the ability to hire a full-time analyst and just wanted a cheap intern. Also, in 2023/2024 – the market sucks. M&A is grinding to a halt and high interest rates are hurting economic activity. Hell, the bank you intern at may not exist in a year. One job will not define you. If there are mistakes you think you can improve on, then recognize what they are and adapt.
20) It’s just a job. All this aside, remember, it’s just a job, not your life. A job is only a way to drive cash flow to fund your livelihood. That is it. You are young, you are energized, you are fungible – you will figure it out even if the path seems unclear sometimes.
That’s all! Best of luck!

.357 SIG (or 9x22mm) may not have set the handgun world on fire quite the way Federal and SIG Sauer wanted it to, but that wasn’t necessarily the round’s fault. Since its introduction nearly 30 years ago, it has gained a niche but loyal following and proven itself to be a worthy defensive cartridge.
Of course, as with any round, high-quality, purpose-built defensive ammo makes a world of difference compared to standard target ammo, so it’s important to run something you can depend on when you need it most.
The best .357 SIG defense ammo is the 125gr Speer Gold Dot GDHP Hollow Points.
Still, there are a host of other options out there worth considering as well, especially if you like to experiment with your carry ammo to find the best possible fit for you and your gun.

Best .357 Sig Ammo for Self Defense

• Speer Gold Dot 125gr GDHP - Best Overall
• Federal Personal Defense HST 125gr Jacketed Hollow Point - Law Enforcement Favorite
• Federal Premium 125gr Jacketed Hollow Point - Best Value

Speer Gold Dot 125gr GDHP - Best Overall

Specs

• Bullet Type: Gold Dot Jacketed Hollow Point
• Bullet Weight: 125gr
• Muzzle Velocity: 1375fps
• Muzzle Energy: 525ft-lbs
• Casing Type: Nickel-Plated Brass

Pros

• Proven track record in law enforcement use
• Nickel-plated casing for more reliable function in semi-auto handguns than brass cases
• Very high muzzle velocity for consistent penetration and expansion
• Meets or exceeds FBI penetration standards

Cons

• More expensive than other similar options like Speer Lawman
• Hard to find in stock at times

Why We Chose It

Speer Gold Dot Hollow Points are one of the premier hollow point options out there and have proven themselves in the hands of state and federal law enforcement for decades now.
This .357 SIG ammo functioned reliably in every semi-automatic handgun we tested, including in my own Glock 32 concealed carry and a SIG P229 Nitron.
These 125-grain JHPs pass the FBI’s penetration test in ballistics gel, and the stellar Gold Dot design provides extremely uniform and consistent expansion.
The Uni-Cor bonding method and pressure-formed projectile core ensure the copper jacket and lead core stay together and don’t separate when passing through a hard barrier.
At 525ft.-lbs of energy, this is also one of the most powerful .357 SIG cartridges on shelves right now.

Other .357 SIG Ammunition Recommendations for Defense

Federal Personal Defense HST 125gr Jacketed Hollow Point

Specs

• Bullet Type: Federal HST Jacketed Hollow Point
• Bullet Weight: 125gr
• Muzzle Velocity: 1360fps
• Muzzle Energy: 513ft-lbs
• Casing Type: Nickel-Plated Brass

Pros

• Ideal penetration in ballistics testing
• Proven HST hollow point design
• Used by multiple state law enforcement agencies, as well as federal agencies abroad
• Lightest recoil on our list

Cons

• Expensive
• HST Hollow point expands less consistently after passing through a hard surface like a windshield

Why We Chose It

Federal’s HST hollow point design is another proven contender in the world of defensive ammunition. This high-velocity ammo is nickel-plated for reliable feeding and features sealed primers for stellar function in adverse conditions (or if you’ve left your ammo loaded in your mag a little long).
The HST bullet is designed to maintain mass as it travels through soft tissue while still expanding reliably to cause sufficient wounding and prevent overpenetration. In testing, it maintained the most mass after full penetration of any round on this list.
That means that when the round gets to where it’s going, it’s still mostly intact and transferred more of its energy to the target (a gel block in this case) while expanding. Like our top pick, it meets FBI penetration test standards and is used by numerous state-level police agencies and investigation bureaus.

Federal Premium Law Enforcement 125gr JHP

Specs

• Bullet Type: HST Jacketed Hollow Point
• Bullet Weight: 125gr
• Muzzle Velocity: 1360 fps
• Muzzle Energy: 513ft-lbs
• Casing Type: Nickel-Plated Brass/ Plain Brass

Pros

• Similar performance to Personal Defense line above
• Much more affordable than other premium hollow points
• Available in bulk

Cons

• Hard to find the nickel-plated variety
• Typically only available in 50rd+ boxes

Why We Chose It

It’s never a good idea to be too cheap when it comes to your self-defense ammo, but Federal has still got the misers among us covered with their SIG .357 Law Enforcement 125gr JHP ammo.
This stuff is very similar to the more expensive Personal Defense line above and provides the same bullet moving at the same velocity (and thus with the same energy). It has proven extremely reliable in our testing and works great in most common .357 SIG handguns.
The downside is it’s hard to find in the nickel-plated casings, so you’re left with the more corrosion-prone brass cases most of the time. Is that a problem for most people? Maybe, maybe not. Just make sure you’re checking your carry ammo occasionally, and you’ll be fine.
Other than that, it can be hard to find in 20-rd boxes, so you might occasionally need to buy 50+rd boxes but…I find it difficult to call having more ammo a bad thing.

Honorable Mentions

There are a few other options that we either haven’t tested in a wide enough variety of guns yet or that we’re just waiting on manufacturers to restock. These are rounds that I personally trust, from manufacturers with a reputation for quality. I’d carry any of these (and have in some cases).
Hornady Critical Duty .357 SIG 135 Grain FlexLock: A solid performer that features Hornady’s no-clog Flex-Tip projectile that is designed to better deal with thick clothing, plus an InterLock band that helps keep the projectile intact for maximum penetration and expansion.
It also passes all FBI ammunition tests, is nickel-plated for more reliable feeding, and uses proprietary powder formulations to reduce muzzle flash.
Underwood Ammo .357 SIG 147 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point: A great option that uses Hornady’s excellent (and field-proven) XTP hollow point coupled with a nickel-plated case for reliable feeding and ejection. Also uses low-flash powder to preserve vision when shooting in dark environments.
Winchester Defender 125gr Bonded JHP: Winchester’s proven bonded jacketed hollow point design has passed every FBI penetration test and evaluation protocol and is in use by multiple State police departments and federal organizations. It has a proven track record in the field and is a good value as well.
Remington Golden Saber 125gr JHP: Another law-enforcement favorite, Remington’s Golden Saber line is a great option that functions well, and won’t break the bank. This is a notable step up in performance from say, Remington’s UMC line, and is perfect for self/home defense.
Fiocchi 124gr FMJ-TC: This one is a little bit different in that it isn’t a hollow point at all and shouldn’t be used for defensive purposes. Why is it on our list, then? Because it is an affordable flat-nosed training bullet. It leaves very clear holes in paper targets and is perfect for competition scoring.
If you’re looking to shoot something like an IDPA or USPSA match with your chosen carry gun, pick up some of this stuff instead of shooting the much more expensive hollow points to ring steel and punch paper.

Buyer’s Guide: The Importance of Selecting the Right Defensive Ammo (.357 SIG or Otherwise)

When it comes to choosing defensive ammo, there are a few things to keep in mind. At the end of the day, you’re carrying this ammo in case you need to stop a threat in a life-or-death situation, and that means your ammo absolutely cannot be found wanting.
When looking at defensive ammo in general, the main things to look for are reliability, penetration, and expansion.
You need ammo that is going to function reliably in your gun, and you need to know that it is going to penetrate deep enough to do its job. Expanding ammo is also a must in order to cause a significant enough wound to stop a threat with a handgun.
The .357 SIG may have been intended to mimic the .357 Magnum when fired from a semi-auto handgun, but that doesn’t mean you can skimp and shoot a typical target FMJ instead of a purpose-built defense round and expect to stop a threat reliably.
You also need something that is controllable, and .357 SIG definitely is that. If you’re used to something like .45 ACP or 10mm, this will be a cakewalk. It’s a touch more recoil than a 9mm and about on par with .40 S&W.

Factors to Consider when Selecting .357 Sig Self-Defense Ammo

Choosing a .357 SIG round for carry means picking something that is going to expand consistently, defeat barriers like thick clothing or the arm of an assailant, and still penetrate deeply enough to cause significant trauma to a vital organ.
That means the ammunition we choose needs to be a high-quality controlled-expansion hollow point that penetrates 12”-18” in ballistics media.
Why that distance?
That range is the ideal range to make sure you get enough penetration when striking a human attacker to go through an arm, thick clothing, or something like a windshield or car door (both of which are more of a police issue than a civilian issue) and still have enough energy to reach a vital organ.
Why is there an upper range? Because if a bullet over-penetrates, you risk striking an innocent bystander, and at best, you’re wasting energy. We want a bullet that expends all of its energy on the assailant, not the wall behind them.
Let’s take a look at the types of bullets that can provide this type of performance.

Types of .357 Sig Defense Ammunition: Bullet Types Explained

Full metal jacket (FMJ): FMJ rounds consist of a lead bullet with a (usually) copper coating around the exposed lead. This creates a projectile that holds its shape as it strikes a soft surface. These rounds are very affordable and great for target shooting.
However, since they don’t expand when striking a soft surface, they’re not ideal for self-defense.
Total Metal Jacket (TMJ): TMJ rounds are similar but feature a copper coating on the rear of the bullet to completely enclose the lead projectile. This is ideal for indoor range shooting as it lowers lead exposure and is required in some cases. They’re still not ideal for self-defense.
Jacketed Hollow Point (JHP): A jacketed hollow point is the preferred carry round of almost all police and law enforcement agencies. These rounds feature a copper-wrapped lead projectile, just like the two choices above.
However, these rounds have a hollow nose, which causes the round to mushroom open to almost twice its initial diameter when striking a soft surface. This effectively turns a .357 caliber projectile into a .70+ caliber projectile after it hits an assailant.
This makes them much more effective at stopping a human threat and also keeps them from over-penetrating and thereby wasting their energy on something you don’t want to put a hole in, like your apartment wall or an innocent bystander.
Solid-Copper Hollow Point (SCHP): A solid-copper hollow point is exactly what it sounds like. These rounds are more expensive and rare in the .357 SIG space, but companies like Buffalo Bore do make them. These hollow points penetrate more than is strictly necessary for a human-sized threat and are more intended for dealing with large game animals.

How to Test 357 Sig Defense Ammo

When you’re testing any defensive ammo, as long as you’re going with an expanding projectile from a reputable name in the industry, you don’t really need to break out the ballistics gel yourself. Chances are, somebody online has already done that testing for you.
What neither I nor anyone else on the internet can do for you is test your chosen defensive ammo in your gun.
Defensive firearms have gotten a lot less picky about bullet weights and projectile profiles over the years, but it’s still important that you take your ammo to the range and test it extensively. I personally go through about three or four boxes or so of my chosen ammo each time to make sure it functions reliably in a new gun.
I know that’s expensive, but I’d rather know my ammo works. At the bare minimum, shoot a couple of full mags at real-world distances. Pick a handgun self-defense drill and run through it a few times to make sure your gun will cycle your chosen ammo well.

Real-World Effectiveness of .357 SIG Defense Ammo

Despite the seeming lack of popularity of the .357 SIG, it’s still proven itself in real-world use by major state and federal law enforcement agencies.
On the state side of things, the Texas Hwy Patrol and the state police forces of Delaware, Mississippi, Montana, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Tennessee, and Virginia have all used .357 SIG duty weapons.
On the federal side, the Secret Service, Bureau of Industry and Security, Air Marshals, Customs and Border Patrol, and FBI have all used .357 SIG as well.

Frequently Asked Questions

What’s the difference between 9x22mm ammo and .357 sig ammo?

There is no difference between 9x22mm ammo and .357 Sig ammo. They are the same rounds.

Is the 357 sig too much for self-defense?

No, the 357 Sig is not too much for self-defense.

Can you use the 357 sig for home defense?

Yes, you can use the 357 Sig for home defense.

Is 357 SIG a good defensive round?

Yes, 357 Sig is a good defensive round. Even though it’s not the most popular caliber, it’s more than capable of stopping a threat.

Parting Shots

.357 Sig is a great option for self-defense, with a lot of great factory ammo options available that will help keep you and your loved ones safe. The round may be a bit niche, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t effective, and the ammo we’ve discussed here definitely proves that.
With the best .357 Sig defense ammo, you should feel confident with wielding a SIG .357 in defense of hearth and home, and you’ll have the bonus of probably being the only one of your buddies to carry one.
For more info, check out our complete list of .357 SIG ammo, or check out our in-depth comparison of .357 SIG and 9mm to see how this slightly niche round stands up to the self-defense king. We also have more info on this great round and how to choose the perfect ammo below.
.357 SIG Defensive Ammo: Effective and Underrated originally appeared on Ammo.com

3D resin printed, applied Rustoleum Filler Primer, rubbed with 0000 wool, conductive nickel spray coated, copper sulfate solution 1.5v for an hour, magnetic stirrer moving the solution. Rinsed in calcium carbonate and water to neutralize, tap water rinse, air dried.

The guys stopped Black Mirror just as it changed hands from BBC to Netflix. There are some great episodes in those later seasons that the guys would get great discussions out of, but in particular, the episode USS Callister. Not posting any spoilers because I know Aaron creeps this sub quite often (hey Aaron). The cheesy vintage camp, the McPoyle and Meth Damon, the sci fi. It's a big ball of a lot of their favorite things. Do you guys agree/ think there's a chance they might need a filler episode we can suggest it for? I know they had some issues with Black Mirror specifically getting blocked some.

I enjoy watching Rose's videos as time-fillers or when I'm going to bed - I'm not really looking for makeup tips but they're simple and not very flashy videos so they're kinda soothing lol.
Anyway, I just have to complain about how she films her videos. Some of her videos look like they're filmed in a cave with a single head lamp. Sometimes they're so bad that the shadows from her hands and tools literally block what she's doing. I respect that she makes it a point to show "beauty mode" on and off in many of her videos, but the lighting completely blasts any skin texture anyway so it's hard to see what she's pointing out (in terms of texture or finish).
Anyone else bothered by this? I don't see much discussion about her other than her brush brand, really.

Just add a little to it every day. Keeping it covered when I’m not riding of course.

This is just one Story from my personal project about my former drug addiction which i have named "A Little Bump in The Road" written anonymously i have posted this to reddit out of pure curiosity as i know from experience drug addiction is unfortunately never talked about enough i believe primarily because of the fear of judgement from those around them which is a very real thing unfortunately but i hope this story of mine inspires people who went through similar situations to speak up about their experiences and traumas from this awful rat trap of drug addiction [ Trigger Warning for any recovering addicts]
The Day That Changed my Life

This story im about to write is actually the last time i smoked Weed/hash,the first day i was able to hold my addiction by the neck and say no to be very honest i felt like weed was my closest friend and they had just stabbed me in the back i have been sober for 2 days and 18 hours at the time of writing and since then i have not thought nor considered returning to my old bad habits no matter how they made me feel , i had been smoking for almost a week completely alone except for a short while with my close family member until last weekend when i invited my friend over who coincidentally introduced me to hash back in late september of last year and everything was typical , he had never tried real weed , only synthetic hash and so his tolerance was next to nothing and after sharing a single spliff he began experiencing a very intense high which began to wear off only a couple hours afterwards so we agree that we should hit the bong and watch a movie. The mixture i used was about 10% dokha and 25% weed and the rest was just filler(tobacco) i assume the dokha content was too much because after a small inhale of the bong i begin hyperventilating , as i look back on the day i realise my blood sugar must have been very low as i hadnt eaten at all that day but it could have been anything , i breifly pass out apparently start seizing (Seizure) when my friend begins to wake me up i was barely unconcious , i was seeing black spots and did not recognise him i barely mutter out "who are you?!" after that i stumble to my bed and pass out and begin to seize again after that night i had realized i had almost drievn my addiction to a point of death , my need to get higher and higher until i couldnt feel a thing, my friend and i made a pact that we would both never do it again , we proceeded to burn the rest of my stash with a tin of lighter gasoline the motning after as my friend was waking up i put that bong in a plastic bag and smashed it against the floor , i was sitting in the spot where i was seizing last night , i put the residue of the stash in that plastic bag and threw it in the skip on our way to get breakfast at mcdonalds , after that i ordered 2-3x what i usually order , i was trying new menu items i had such a different mentality all i could think about is "what if i did die last night" after i pay for my order and walk outside where my friend was seated we see a young woman that had just fainted, she wasnt waking up and they even called a doctor from the pharmacy almost a block away it was just a very traumatic 12 hours that morning i saw it all as god looking out for me , the one night i wasnt smoking alone and where i had support , if i had been alone who knows what might have happened

In the past few months, I've used these 3 sunscreen amongst others. Sharing a Quick Review of my experience.
Skin Type: Combination skin, Oily T-zone
Climate: Hot & Moderately Humid
Age: 30
1) A'Pieu Pure Block Waterproof Sun Cream SPF50 PA+++
https://maccaron.in/en/products/apieu_pure-block-waterproof-sun-cream-spf50pa/13146/
Price: 730 for 50gm, but is mostly available for around Rs. 450 bucks.
Usage Time: 2 weeks
Current AM/PM Routine: Angel Face wash Ingredients: Water, Cyclopentasiloxane, Zinc Oxide, Cyclohexasiloxane, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Titanium Dioxide, Ethylhexyl Salicylate, C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Glycerin, Octocrylene, Sodium Chloride, Cetyl PEG/PPG-10/1 Dimethicone, Methyl Methacrylate Crosspolymer, Sorbitan Isostearate, Aluminum Hydroxide, Stearic Acid, Disteardimonium Hectorite, Fragrance(Parfum), Phenoxyethanol, Caprylyl Glycol, Silica Dimethyl Silylate, Dimethicone, Ethylhexylglycerin, Dimethicone/Vinyl Dimethicone Crosspolymer, Disodium EDTA, Butylene Glycol, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Citrus Aurantium Dulcis (Orange) Oil, Punica Granatum Extract, Citrullus Lanatus (Watermelon) Fruit Extract, Vanilla Tahitensis Fruit Extract, Citrulline, Potassium Sorbate, Sodium Benzoate, Citrus Aurantifolia (Lime) Fruit Extract, Pyrus Malus (Apple) Flower Extract, Prunus Domestica Seed Extract, Prunus Persica (Peach) Flower Extract
Fragrance: Even though it's listed as an Ingredient, didn't feel any.
Texture: Liquid
Finish: Matte
My Experience: This was the most heartbreaking Sunscreen ever. You may wonder why!!
Well, have you ever found a perfect match only to have one flaw ruin everything? That's my journey with this Sunscreen.
This Sunscreen has everything - Waterproof, Sweatproof, Sandproof (I don't know such thing exists), Non-greasy, adequate sun protection, like it checks all the boxes to become your HG.
Except One. Horrible white cast
It gave a matte finish on my combination skin, very comfortable to wear but have such a white cast that it was so difficult to blend. The white cast is difficult to ignore on my fair skin, it almost felt as if I've dabbed too much powder on my face.
I've not yet found a sunscreen under this budget that felt so amazing on skin, but the white cast is just too loud on my face to ignore. Sadly, I won't be purchasing it again. Hoping they reformulate and do something about the white cast.
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2) CeraVe Sunscreen Stick SPF 50 0.47 Ounce Mineral Sunscreen for Kids & Adults
https://amzn.eu/d/ieRcTnv
Price: Available for Rs. 2000 on Amazon, before discounts. I bought it Rs. 800 from an IG thrift store.
Type: Mineral Sun Stick
Ingredients: Active Ingredients: Titanium Dioxide, Zinc Oxide Inactive Ingredients: C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Butyloctyl Salicylate, Neopentyl Glycol Diethylhexanoate, Paraffin, Euphorbia Cerifera (Candelilla) Wax, Ozokerite, Dimethicone, Beeswax, Polyethylene, Cetyl Alcohol, Ceramide 3, Ceramide 6 II, Ceramide 1, Cholesterol, Phytosphingosine, Sodium Hyaluronate, Polyhydroxystearic Acid, Aluminum Hydroxide, Stearic Acid, BHT, Carbomer, Triethoxycaprylylsilane, Isostearic Acid, Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate, Xanthan Gum
AM/PM routine: I've mostly used it for re-application since months, so do not remember the exact routine.
Fragrance: None
Usage Time: Quite inconsistent with this coz I don't like the finish.
Claims: Water Resistant, Non-comedogenic, suitable for sensitive skin and children.
My Experience: This is my first ever sunstick, and will probably be my last. I thought using sunstick is supposed to be a smooth experience, but I didn't enjoy the experience this brought.
First, It gives off a white cast, then post application, I've to blend it with my fingers. I thought I wouldn't need to blend in case of sun stick.
Second, There was a mild tugging of skin involved . The application ain't as smooth as I would've expected.
Third, The feel of it on skin was not comfortable. It felt sticky.
Not to forget, I could see tiny particles getting stuck on the stock, maybe from my skin itself during application or external forces. That made me question the hygiene using a sunstick.
All of this pretty much turned me off. I found myself not reaching for it daily.
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3) Derma Co. Hyaluronic Invisible Sunscreen Gel with Hyaluronic Acid & Vitamin E - 50g
https://thedermaco.com/product/hyaluronic-invisible-sunscreen-gel-with-hyaluronic-acid-vitamin-e-50g
Price: Rs. 599/- for 50g
Ingredients: Cyclopentasiloxane (and) Dimethicone Crosspolymer, Octyl Methoxycinnamate, Octocrylene, Octyl Salicylate, Tocopheryl Acetate, PEG-8 Caprylic/Capric Glycerides (and) Water (and) Octyldodeceth-25 (and) Sodium Hyaluronate.
AM/PM Routine: Angel Face wash Fragrance: None
Texture: Transparent gel
Finish: Matte
Usage Time: Approx a month
Claims: Can be used as primer base for makeup, Ideal for all skin types
My Experience: I hated it. From the moment I bought it, It used to pill. Prior to this, I never understood when people commented on their Sunscreen pilling, but this Sunscreen introduced me to what pilling means.
I could also never understand if I blended my Sunscreen properly. I tried different ways, twice also used it on my hands, thinking maybe it was me who wasn't blending properly leading to all the pilling. But no, It pilled everywhere.
As a person wearing specs, it Sunscreen pilling on your glasses and in this summer heat mixing with your sweat is just gross.
So No, I'm never getting it again and never recommending anyone to get it. Proper to this, I've used Conscious Chemist SPF 30 Invisible Sunscreen, that was so comfortable and never once pilled. So there are probably good invisible sunscreen out there, just not this one
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